tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post1250500178437411549..comments2023-06-20T06:35:18.207-05:00Comments on crazydaycary: you might not understand me here unless you read it all...and some of you still might not understand me even then.alishahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15699518446113288331noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-25361995960214526112011-01-24T11:31:06.024-06:002011-01-24T11:31:06.024-06:00Alisha, I hope that you and Brandon realize how ma...Alisha, I hope that you and Brandon realize how many lives that you touch daily. I to am pro-life but have a few very very close people in my life that have chose abortion. I do not understand it, but also feel like it is not for me to understand. I just feel like I should love them. I have never been put in that situation, but I feel very stongly that I know what I would do if I were. I am not great at explaining my thoughts and views so I tend to sit back and listen during discussions such as these. I feel like you are very well spoken and I am fascinated to her your views on such things!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-6818138111458999192011-01-23T13:52:19.944-06:002011-01-23T13:52:19.944-06:00Thank you for sharing some of your story. We can b...Thank you for sharing some of your story. We can be reached at a_b_cary@yahoo.com if you'd like to continue this discussion or ask any more questions about whatever. And of course, you can always leave comments here, I just thought in the future that would be a way that might be easier to check back and forth than scrolling comments here! Thanks again for the conversation and comments.alishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699518446113288331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-14461935708166527162011-01-23T13:35:51.480-06:002011-01-23T13:35:51.480-06:00Thanks for the reply Alisha. I've been followi...Thanks for the reply Alisha. I've been following your blog since last year. I find it very interesting. You have a beautiful family and I think you're an excellent mother. I have two children that spend some time in the NICU when they were born, but survived it fairly unscathed (except for a heart issue). I suspect the NICU ultimately led to my wife and I both rejecting christianity but then again, belief is a very complex issue as well. Most people leave for complex reasons.<br /><br />As far as abortion goes. I'm always a little conflicted. I'm pro-choice, but I'm also pro-life. I would like for abortions never to happen, sadly, I don't think that will ever be the case. Hopefully we can have legislation someday that makes sense.Twin-Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09569089477407382148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-55445088738214690182011-01-23T11:57:03.842-06:002011-01-23T11:57:03.842-06:00no prob. glad you checked back!
you are right in...no prob. glad you checked back! <br />you are right in that all are sinful, and the Bible is very clear about that. I think perhaps I wasn't as clear as I wanted to be there-- at 1 AM :) Even Noah sinned, as is clearly clearly documented in the Bible but I think what is notable is that for whatever reason, God chose him to save (physically) whoever would listen and believe. God knew he had sinned, but just as God chooses to use regular every day people, who are all sinners, to do His work, He chose Noah to save some of humanity (physically). Noah listened to, and believed God, and obeyed Him, and pretty much all of the world thought he was a quack. Because God had already made the decision to destroy the earth (population wise) with the flood, because of the wickedness of the people, those who did not listen to Noah and believe what God had told him could not be saved, bc they weren't on the ark, so they obviously drowned. So while those who did heed Noah's warning (God's warning) were definitely sinners, bc you are right in that we all are, they were saved because of their belief in God and their obedience on that belief. I probably didn't clear myself up any there :)<br />And of course, I am stating all of this as true because I believe it is- <br />Thanks again for taking time to see if I responded. Perhaps one day I will have a blog with some automatic reply button, that would be so great!alishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699518446113288331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-86875245486445089432011-01-23T11:05:17.737-06:002011-01-23T11:05:17.737-06:00I think it's a reasonable reply Alisha. The qu...I think it's a reasonable reply Alisha. The question is complex. <br /><br />I will assume for the sake of argument that the god of the bible is real (I don't think he is, but I know lots of people do!). <br /><br />When I say "moral reference point", I would have to agree, God wouldn't get that from anyone. He would be the moral reference point for his followers though. Those fetuses in their mothers wombs are completely innocent. Killing of anyone I don't think can be justified because of "being sinful", I mean the bible teaches that all are sinful, Noah certainly would have to fall under that grouping I think. <br /><br />I'm pro-life (in most cases) because I don't think anyone knows when life begins. From a biblical point of view, when I was a christian, I considered it to be when the heart begins to beat. The bible says the life is in the blood, so when the heart beats would be when the blood circulates (Completely my own thoughts though).<br /><br />I also think that people make a choice to have sex and that sometimes has after affects (babys). There are too many people out there that want a child for them just to be thrown away.<br /><br />Anyway, I think the question and answer are both pretty complex. I appreciate your reply, thanks for taking the time.Twin-Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09569089477407382148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-81359989625295898432011-01-23T01:15:44.110-06:002011-01-23T01:15:44.110-06:00Well, by no means am I any expert on much of anyth...Well, by no means am I any expert on much of anything, but I welcome your comments and questions! I do feel inadequate at answers, though, which for my personality is very frustrating! <br />Twin Daddy, I figure you are correct that in the destruction of many sinful cities/communities/virtually the entire world during the flood/etc, most likely children, infants, expectant mothers, etc were destroyed..that is a pretty much guarantee, so it is a logical assumption....But I don't liken it to abortion...A couple of things I think here-- when it comes to an unborn child, the person carrying that child is choosing (or being forced to choose)to terminate the pregnancy. The child (because I do believe it is a child/a life, even at conception) has zero say in it, and truthfully, God has zero say in it-- God is not using these doctors as vigilantes of retribution for some sin-- the unborn child needs no judgement taken out on him/her, bc what has that child done thus far to be judged of? Maybe I am misunderstanding your question/thought? Another thought,from my personal belief system, is that the phrase "God's moral reference point" is kind of irrelevant here- only in the sense that because I believe in God as THE Way/Truth/Life, I don't think HE has a moral reference point in the sense we do. I mean, who would He glean it from? God doesn't have a God. What He says, goes. And because I think in the Old Testament, although through His servants He did destroy many many sinful nations, even when He destroyed the entire population, He did not destroy the righteous-- not the ones willing to listen and join Noah on the Ark. So God does judge- and that judgement can end in death and destruction...but an unborn child has nothing to be judged of. So his/her death is completely unwarranted and I believe is something that grieves the heart of God. Whew. I don't think I probably did much good at answering, but I tried my best!!! Thank you for your comment/inquiry- I hope you see my reply, as my blog is not set up to automatically show a reply to a given comment.alishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699518446113288331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-24652865809458499512011-01-23T00:42:41.399-06:002011-01-23T00:42:41.399-06:00WOW! Fascinating blog post. I think considering yo...WOW! Fascinating blog post. I think considering your beliefs then no one can really get angry over your position. You're beliefs seem to be in line with your ideology. Keep in mind I'm atheist AND I'm pro-life (although not to the extent that you are). <br /><br />I'm curious about your thoughts concerning the old testament though. I realize the old and new testaments are differing "agreements" with mankind. Yet, from a christian perspective, both old and new can be used to give some idea as to the nature of God.<br /><br />God condoned the killing of many people in the OT, so many in fact that we can likely assume that some were pregnant. We know that many were very young as well as female. Does this indicate that abortion might not be against God moral reference point?<br /><br />I'm interested in your thoughts.Twin-Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09569089477407382148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7955965240549179311.post-18735021901264384132011-01-22T12:43:15.041-06:002011-01-22T12:43:15.041-06:00VERY well said. I so miss talking to you about th...VERY well said. I so miss talking to you about the little and the big things in life. You are inspiring others and I am so glad that you are not ashamed! :)<br />AmyAmy <>noreply@blogger.com